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Debate Score:619
Arguments:134
Total Votes:817
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Israel Land Dispute -Hour 6

Both Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Arab Muslims) believe that the land of Israel (formerly Palestine) is rightfully theirs.  State your opinion and then respond/debate to others.  You may support someone on your side, but also make counterpoints to what the other side says.  USE EVIDENCE.  You can even link your evidence if you know where you got it.  

Support Israelis

Side Score: 578
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Support Palestinians

Side Score: 41
20 points

I believe that the Israelis have the full right to Israel and its land because they have been living there continuously for 3000 years and the land was still rightfully theirs during WW2. Israelis did not take all of the land though buy still let some areas be palestinian. After all, the palestinian people started the violence in the Israel area. The Israelis did not want violence and war but apparently palestine did. After all of this conflict, Israel wanted to take control of the Gaza Strip and West Bank with a negotiation of a 30 billion dollar refugee plan for the palestinians. Palestine leader Yasser Arafat did not make any counter offers and he immediately planned Al-Aqsa Intifada. Plus, palestine choose to support the Nazis in world war 2, the Nazis who tortured and brutally killed Jewish people whereas 3/4 of Israel people are jewish. If this land was not turned into Israel, would it be another Afghanistan because arab military forces have done military strikes and did not care or consider the safety of civilians whereas Israel considers civilian safety and only strikes if no civilians are harmed. Israel has also banned terrorism, human shields and torture;which was never banned in palestine.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

Yeah I agree with that the Jews lived there before. They were only kicked out because they were forced out.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I agree to you because the jews have been there just as long as the Palestinians

Side: Support Israelis
18jschwoerer Clarified
1 point

they have been there much much longer and have worked the land and lost so much blood defending it

Side: Support Israelis
12 points

I believe that the Jews/ Israelis should get Israel because the Palestinians reason for the land is just, the Jews left the land and no one took it so we took control of it. But the Jews/ Israelis didn't just leave the land, they were fourced out by Palestinians. It was either they left Israel or they were killed.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I agree. The Arabs think they should get the land because the Jews left. Well guess what? The Jews didn't choose to leave, the Arabs forced them too! Not only that they KILLED them!

Side: Support Israelis
11 points

I think, since the Israelis were given the land and went into war for it and won they deserve the land. The PALESTINE people launched their attacks at innocent Jews, THEY started the war and let the Jews have a chance to take over. By firing their attacks at the Jews, they basically said to come at me at fight to the jews. And the Jews ended up winning. -Katie B.

Supporting Evidence: Israel-Palestinian conflict (connection.ebscohost.com)
Side: Support Israelis
10 points

If the Palestinians are so set on Jerusalem becoming their holy city, then explain why the Jews always pray facing toward the city, but Muslims always pray with their back toward the city!

Side: Support Israelis
10 points

I believe that Israel deserves the land because they have religious rights to the land. God said in ancient biblical times that the land belongs to Israel. Below is the link to where just one of the many cites state that god said it.

Supporting Evidence: God says that the land belongs to Israel (www.cdn-friends-icej.ca)
Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I totally agree with you Lauren! God gave the Israelis the land, it even says it in the bible. And the Israelis want the land for religious reasons and the Palestinians don't really have a very good reason for wanting it.

Side: Support Israelis
10 points

I believe that the Jews/ Israelis should get Israel because the Palestinians reason for the land is just, the Jews left the land and no one took it so we took control of it. But the Jews/ Israelis didn't just leave the land, they were fourced out by Palestinians. It was either they left Israel or they were killed.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I agree with Mrs Swanson because the Palestinians left the land and it was free for anybody to have, so the Israelis took it over. The Palestinians have no right to come back and take the land away from the Israelis. If you are supporting the Palestinians you are basically saying that anybody came come and take over land that is already owned by someone else.

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

I think Isreal should have the land because Isreal is able to bring more food out of the desert climate than any other country can. Isreal has lots of succes in the desert climate so Isreal should be able to have the land because they can make and do a lot of thing in the desert climate.

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

I think that the Israelis should have the land because because they were given it. The United Nations gave them the land, therefore the land shouldn't even be up for grabs. They own it and they shouldn't have to fight for it. It is just like if you were given a gift and your sibling wanted it. She used it for a little bit and you went to go look at your other gifts. Does that mean that the gift is now your siblings? No! it means that she used it but overall it is still yours. It was given to you and unless you give it away it will always be yours. It is the same with the land. It was given to the Israelis and unless they give it away it will always be theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

I agree with this very much! Also Israel has had it for 3,000 years and they have done alot better things on the land. The thing is that Israel has been much more productive in the desert.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

The land is called Israel because it did once belong to the Israelis. I think it should stay that way. The Israelis were forced out of the land that rightfully did belong to them and when they came back for it they were told they couldn't have it. It's not like they wanted to leave they were forced out.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I agree with you. Just because they left doesn't mean it isn't theirs anymore. They were forced to leave so it wasn't even a choice of theirs. Some people have been saying that they shouldn't have the land because they left. That doesn't make any sense because they were forced out. If they would have just abandoned it, it might change my thinking a little. It doesn't mean that I would support the other side but I am just saying that it would make a little bit of a difference.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I think that the Israelis should own the land because the Jews have been living there for over 3,000 years

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

The Jews are the only people who have been on the SAME LAND, had the same language, and have worshiped the same god for over 3,000 years.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I think the land belongs to the Israelis, because god gave them the right to the land and not the palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I agree God promised the land to Abraham. God gave the Jews Israel.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I agree with you because god did give them the rights because they have lived there for 3,000

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

Arab violence against civilians began long before occupation.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I think that Jewish people are more likely to want to improve the country. They actually want it for religious reasons too. They are willing to fight in order to get there land back and they have the desire within them.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree with you because it means a lot to them. They are fighting to get THEIR OWN land back! It belongs to them and if they didn't really want it or it didn't really mean much to them, they wouldn't fight back. The war would be over and they wouldn't have it. However the Israelis DO want it and they ARE fighting to get it back. That means that they would do anything for the country and to help it. If they lost I don't think that the Palestinians would do much for it. I think that they only want the land for them and not for the people of Jerusalem. The Israelis are fighting for everyone, not just themselves.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I bealeve that the Isrealites should be able to have the land becasue it was orginally theirs, Jeses gave it to them and the palestinons never had it. They took it as far back as records show and the palestinions shouldn't be able to take it from them.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

I think that the Israelis should have their land back because they were only leaving because of a war, and they were there first living there for over 3,000 years. The Palestinians just decided they would take over because the Israelis left. Think of it this way... You get a house and share it with a friend. You leave on a trip and when you come back your house that you were sharing was taken over my your roommate and now they say you cannot live there anymore. Plus the land was promised to the Jews by the Koranic-aka Koran. (the sacred writing of Islam) All over on debates on other sights i have searched and they say the Palestinians are making a big deal of it and there should be no war. If you are there fist then you should get to stay there.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

The Jews had no land left after the holocaust and they needed to have their own land sometime so they got their own country to keep them safe and god was the one who gave it to them.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Their bible says that God gave the land to the Israels and the U.N. also gave the land to Israel.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Israelis have the most sacred place on earth for them in Israel and Palestinians have no religious relations with Israel.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Israel deserves the land because they won it fairly in the war. So why should the Palestinians try to take the land that is Israels fair and square.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Israelis are friends with powerful armies (United States) so they will be able to protect the land better than the Palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

The israels have lived on the land for over 3000 years. It wouldn't make sense for th e israels to leave when they have been there for a lot longer than the palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

It is not fair for Palestine to be making it harder because other countries are trying to help Israel for example when the UN gave Israel the land. Palestine is just wreaking all of the other countries hard work and therefore they are wasting the time and efforts of the other countries.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

I think that the Jews/ Israelis should get the land because Israel is called Israel for a reason. It's becasue the Jews/ Israelis were born in Israel, the lived there for 3,000 years.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

The Israels deserve the land because they had lived on the land 100 years before the Palestinians came.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I agree. The Israels had control over the land since 1272 BCE and they have been in control over 1000 years! The Arabs have only had control over it for 22 years.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think the Jews deserve to own Israel and Jerusalem because they were given the land by God and also the UN. They have owned it longer than the Palestinians and it has always been the holy city to the Jews, never to the Arabs.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I agree because if god gave them it they should KEEP IT!!!!

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think that that the Israelis should get the land because the Israelis people have been living in Israel for over 3,000 years without leaving

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

I agree with Preston because the Israelis have lived there for way longer than the Palestinians. Also it is like there homeland, and you cant take there homeland away from them and give it to someone else.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

No one wanted the land except for Israelis for how many years and then the Palestinians show up and try to take over and say that it is holy for them to.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think that the Israelis deserved the land, also I think the Palestinian people deserve to be landless with how they came in, trying to take the land. Then again, that was the modern Palestinians ansectors. And yet again, the Palestinian people are teaching their kids to try and defeat the Israelis-at least acccording to one website that I can no longer find-

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think Israelis should have all control over the land because the Palestinians helped the nazi army in world war 2 making them very untrustable/unreliable.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I say that the Israelis deserved the land because they defended the war to get the land and the bible does say that god gave them the land so it is only fair if they did get the land.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think that the isreals should keep the land because they have had the land as far back as records show.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I agree because Israel is in the bible and before the bible

Side: Support Israelis
18nschroeder Clarified
3 points

Israel has records before the bible and in their bible also Israel has won many territory wars over Israel yet they have not gotten the land they deserve

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I believe that Isreal deserves the land because god gave the land to the Hebrews (jews) therefore the should be intitled to the land

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

Palestinian leadership actively support the Nazis during World War 2. Palestinian children are being brain washed into hate, with all the violence

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

So I found a site and it was talking about how in 2000 the Prime Minister of Israel offered 90% of the west bank territory to the Arabs. He even spoke of dividing Jerusalem and allowing the Palestinians the East of Jerusalem. Well Yasser Araft who was the Leader of the Palestinians, stormed out of that meeting. When he was offered part of the city, he left.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

The Qur'an says that the Jewish are "Children of Israel."

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think israelis should get the land because in the bible god gave them land in israel and they should keep it

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I say that Israel belongs to the jewish deserves the land because they have worked the land they where driven out by the romens and it was given back to them after world war ll

Side: Support Israelis
18eromenesko(7) Disputed
7 points

They may have been kicked out originally, but they lived with the Palestinians for a time. So, this raises the question, do they have the right to kick others out.

Side: Support Palestinians
18jschwoerer Disputed
1 point

yes because the palistiens declared war agenst the jewish and the jewish won and the paletinians whent crying home and are having a tantrum ever sens

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think that the Israelis deserve the land because Israelis have fought for the land more than the Palestinians. Plus according to the Qur'an the Israelis get Isreal.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

i think that the palistanians are just miss understood people that think that they own land!

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

the jewish deserve the land because the lad is holy. it was also given to them after wwll. also the word palistianians has no meaning in hebru and other laguges

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

ii think that isrealies deserve the land called isreal!!!!

Side: Support Israelis
18bstark Disputed
4 points

Well jsut becuase the land is called iseral dosnt mean the isrealies should have it

Side: Support Palestinians
4 points

no offense but this doesnt make much sense and has no relivant evidence.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

it says in the bible that god promised the people of isriel the land but the fought many wars to win the land and most of the time they were fighting. and they were forced in to slavery many times.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think that the Israelis should get to keep their land because there are no sacred book that states that Palestinians ever had the land but they do say that the lord gave the Jewish people the land of Israel.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

The palestinians never owned the land in the first place, it belonged to the British and before the British owned it no one at all owned it so the Jews can be there if they want to be!

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

On the yellow claims sheet is says that Palestinians say, "Jewish claim to the land is based only on religion. Saying God gave them the land does not provide good reason for Muslims." That doesn't make sense to me because one of their other claims was, "Palestine is a holy place for Muslims as well. Throughout their history this land has been important to the Muslim faith. Especially the city of Jerusalem." They are going against what they said before because they claimed religion should have nothing to do with it. If that is true then they should not and would not be able to say that it is important to their faith.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The Israelis should get the land because Israelis have invested a lot of buildings into the land.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I agree with Kennedy because the Palestinians have done anything to help build up the land and keep it running. The Israelis have made everything and the Palestinians are trying to come in and make it theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Isreal should have the land because it was never even a palestinian country! They never had nor will ever have any connection to the land!

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Another reason Israel should go to Israelis is because Israelis have accepted but Palestinians don't agree because they don't want Israel to completely be gone from existence. so they train their kids into hate martydam, and genocide.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Palestinians have been brainwashing their children growing up with the fight over Israel. Since the Israelis have control over the land the parents are making it out to be that they are bad rulers and making them against the goverment they live in.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

they were also forced out of their land and the palestinians just decided to move in and the unighted nations gave them their land back they were just moving back in their country not the palistinians country.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

During WWII the Palestinian leadership supported the Nazi into killing the Jews.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I believe that the Jews/ Israelis should get the land because it was already their land. They went to five wars for the land and they won them, there for it should be considered the Israelis land.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Israel is already a small country if the palestinian people come in then the israels will have no ware to go. This would be like some one coming in to your house and taking all of your stuff and space.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The Israelis never gave up on the land they have fought for the land. Acheological evidence that proves 3,000 years Israelis have had the land.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Israelis should get the land because Arab violence against civilians began before occupation for Israel. Meaning they would attack their own people and that is probably one of the reasons why the UN gave it to the Israelis.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Not only was The land given to Isreal, the isrealites succesfully defended the land after SEVERAL wars. Not to mention the fact that most of the people in this argument beleave in christianity whos sacred book is the bible, and in that book it says that Isreal is the Isrealits land.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The Israelis were given permission by the U.N. to live in and own the land

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

the jews should keep the land but they should have to keep fighting for it

Side: Support Israelis
18vrooyakker(13) Disputed
4 points

No I do not agree with you. Yes they should have the land but no they should not have to keep fighting for it. Why should you have to fight for something that is rightfully yours?

Side: Support Palestinians
3 points

If the Palestinians get the land there is a chance that Nazis could come back because during WW2 the Palestinians were supporting them.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

Okay so lets say that the Jews were to allow Part of the land to the Arabs. Then the Arabs would not protect the religious site of the Israels.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

After WW2 the U.N. gave the land to the jews because they didnt have any where to go after 6 million jews were killed during WW2 so the they should have the land.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

the palstanians will lose, we will win because isreali army is stronger and we deserve the land.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Palestinian leadership actively support the Nazis during World War 2. Palestinian children are being brain washed into hate, with all the violence

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

yes they did preston and nazi's are bad the tried to kill the jews.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Since 1272 BCE, the Jews had control over the land. They have had control over the land for over 1000 years and the Arabs have only had control for 22 years. Jerusalem has been the Jewish capitol for over 3300 years. Jerusalem has never been the capitol of any Arab or Muslim religion. Also, Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the bible and never in the Koran. King David founded Jerusalem and and he was a Jew. Mohammad never came to Jerusalem and he was a Muslim. The Jews pray facing toward Jerusalem and the Muslums pray with their backs to Jerusalem. The Arabs were never driven out of therir home. The Jews were forced out durring WWII and they think that they should get the land because the Jews left. But then again, the jews were forced out by the Muslums. Even if Isreal belonged to the Arabs, the Jews won 5 wars against them anyway so the land should be theirs anyway. The UN also gave the land to the Jews, and so did God. Also ALL ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE shows that Israel has been owned by the Jews. And if the Muslums owned the land, it would of said in the Koran. But it doesnt.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

acologests say they have not fould eney thing about the palistianiens they havent found a passage frome a bible or art in there histery

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

The territory was captured in defensive wars. Even after the land was given to them, they successfully defended the land by winning several wars.

Side: Support Israelis

I agree with Preston because the Israelis have defended the land for many of years so the land should belong to them.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

no independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. It was never a real Arab country

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I think Israelis should get the land because they have been in Israel for 3000 years (Some others left during war because they were forced to leave) while Palestinians have barley ever been in Israel

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

they were also forced out of their land and the palestinians just decided to move in and the unighted nations gave them their land back they were just moving back in their country.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

The Israelis have been praying 3 times a day toward Jerusalem in hope to keep the country they live in and have always lived in.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I believe that the isreals should get the land because they have been through so much and they should get more

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

OK WHO DOESNT THINK THIS BELONGS TO THE JEWS I MEAN THEY CLEARLY OWN IT

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Most of the attacks against the Isrealites that the Palestines have compleated were terrorist attacks against Isreal and while all of the action that Isreal is taking on Palestine is them defending themselves.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

The Israelites not only have the land and was given to them, they went into war with palestine and beat them. It is like if say we took over Canada and they came crying to us and said if they could have their land which is really ours now and get mad when we say no. Israel won the war fair and square and now the palestines have to deal with it. They lost, therefore Israel won. They did still keep some for palestine. they should not be complaining.

Side: Support Israelis
-3 points
1 point

The whole time that the Israelis have tried to get their land back, they have been very violent. These statistics are from September 29th 2000 to present. 9,081 Israelis have been injured, and 49,518 Palestinians also have been injured. 1,097 Israelis got killed,but that is nothing compared to the 6,638 Palestinians that have been murdered by the Israelis. Not only are they killing adults but they are also killing children. 129 Israel children got killed, that is terrible yes, but its barely anything compared to the 1,516 Palestinian children. The Israelis don't only kill they also take away peoples homes. 0 homes where destroyed on the Israel side but on the other side-Palestinians- 27,000 homes got destroyed. The U.S military give 8.5 million dollars a day to the Israelis and none to the Palestinians. so not only are the Palestinians getting hurt, killed, and getting there homes taken away they also don't even get help. People wonder why the Palestinians don't just leave, its because they have some thing more than land to fight for.

Supporting Evidence: Statistics website (www.ifamericansknew.org)
Side: Support Palestinians
-4 points
-5 points
18chaack(3) Disputed
4 points

The Jewish has been there as long or maybe longer than the Palestinians, so the Jewish should be able to own it as much as the Palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
18ahammen(9) Disputed
2 points

I complete disagree with you Ben because the Palestinians brought this to themselves by starting the violence and conflict with Israel after Israel has attempted negotiations with them.

Side: Support Israelis
18vrooyakker(13) Disputed
2 points

It is not about feeling bad for people it is about taking something back that is yours. You can't just say you are on someone's side just because you feel bad for them.

Side: Support Israelis
18mlaurent(1) Disputed
0 points

yea the jews have been there for just as long and they should get to keep it

Side: Support Israelis
-5 points
18mdokey(6) Disputed
0 points

but the Arabs have never owned the land! The british owned it then the Jews were given permission to live on the land by the U.N. & God gave them it!

Side: Support Israelis
-5 points
-6 points
18dponto(6) Disputed
3 points

I dissagree with you, the Isrealites took the land at first by religon but the main reason they deserve the land is because they had it for almost 1000 years before the Palesinians.

Side: Support Israelis
18kfiglmille(13) Disputed
1 point

The Israelis don't just have religion on there side. They also have been there for 3,000 years. The Palestinians can't just come in and take the land away from them and claim it as theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Guys I get it that religion isn't the only reason that Israel wants the land but the Israelis are handling it wrong they have targeted civilians, hiring snipers to kill children and tanks to blow up families.

Side: Support Palestinians
18mkroll(8) Disputed
0 points

Okay take religion out of the manner. The Israelis won 5 wars against them. That would mean they would of captured the land, and no religion would of decided that.

Side: Support Israelis
-7 points
18kweingart(13) Disputed
1 point

The Israelis have been living in Israel since 1300 B.C.E and the Palestinians have only been there since 1200 B.C.E.

Side: Support Israelis
18mkroll(8) Disputed
-1 points

Okay, lets just say that the Palestinians DID own the land. Even if they did, the Israels won 5 wars against them! They defended the country, but if the Palestinians were the owners, they lost a war 5 times so the Jews would of took the land anyway.

Side: Support Israelis
0 points

Nice, I completley agree! Way to go! Even if the Israelis people didn't own the land they would get it either way with how well they thought. The Palestinian people also, in my opinion, deserved to get their land taken away with how they treated the Jews during the holocaust.

Side: Support Israelis
-11 points
18oferkel(3) Disputed
1 point

The Palestinians actually illegaly stole land from the Israelis when Israelis had control over the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18pnelson(10) Disputed
0 points

No, the Israelis people have been living there for over 3,000 years

Side: Support Israelis
18mdokey(6) Disputed
0 points

no, there has always been some Jewish people on the land so actually they both lived their and then god gave the Israelis the land.

Side: Support Israelis
0 points

At least according to the Israelis, still I agree, the Palestinians should respect their religon if they expect the Jews to respect theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
18jschwoerer Disputed
-3 points
18vrooyakker(13) Disputed
-1 points

Even though the Israelis left for some time it wasn't their decision. It all happened because they were forced out and that shouldn't be enough to say that they just weren't there.

Side: Support Israelis
18mkroll(8) Disputed
-2 points
0 points

I completley agree! The Palestinian people TOOK the land from the Jews, the Jews had it in the first place and now the Palestinian people crying becuase the Jews finally have it back after all these years. Well I say go live your lives elsewhere, and see how the Jews formorly felt!

Side: Support Israelis