Israel Land Dispute -Hour 5
Both Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Arab Muslims) believe that the land of Israel (formerly Palestine) is rightfully theirs. State your opinion and then respond/debate to others. You may support someone on your side, but also make counterpoints to what the other side says. USE EVIDENCE. You can even link your evidence if you know where you got it.
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I think the Israelis statement is better because.... During the holistic the Jews were forced to leave there homeland of Israel. Then when the holistic was over the Jews had nowhere to go. So the U.N and the U.S decided that the Jews would get the small country of Israel to call there home. Even after it was decided that the Israelis would get the land the Arabs and Palistainians still attacked the Israelis and they successively fended them off. And in every peace agreement attempt the Arabs always requested that the Jews leave there land. Even though the Jews said that they were fine with sharing the land with the Palistainians. Side: Support Israelis
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The Israelities should get the land because Jerusalem is metioned over 700 times in the jewish bible so if the Palestinians want to take Jerusalem it should really belong to the Israelities. Also the Israelities created many different things before they even had control of the land like biuldings, military brigades, etc. and they biult a system to repel palestine attacks and they had a way to defend themselves. Side: Support Israelis
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I support the Israelis, and think that the Israelis should share their land with the Palestinians and stop fighting. They are killing all the innocent Palestinians, just because they want the land. Israelis have already taken over 78% of the Palestinians, and 10,000 Palestinians are in jail, with no trial. They should just share the land, because the Israelis won't take up that much room (Israel can fit into Ohio 7 times). Side: Support Israelis
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I also support Israelis and that Palestinians and Israelis should stop fighting, and share the land. If they share the land, everyone gets what they want and the Palestinians won't get killed. But I also think that the Israel should get their own land, after all they won several wars and the United Nations gave them the land. Side: Support Israelis
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I support the Israelis in this situation. I support them because the Koran itself says that they should own Israel. The Koran also says that God has "written" Israel for them. Even some of Islam's most known exegates said that Israel was the Jews' "birthright given to them". But, I do still think that the good Palestinians should be allowed to call Israel home.. They just shouldn't be able to own it. Side: Support Israelis
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Israelis should get the land because the left and came back to the land and wanted it back the Palestinians didn't give some of it back. The Israelit should have got some of the land but Palestinians did´t so they have somewhere to live but they are guilty for stealing land. Side: Support Israelis
Unlike Palestinians, Israelis have no other land than Israel. Palestinians have close relatives in Syria and Jordan. (There are 22 Arab-Muslim nations.) The land to the Israelis is also sacred. It is the place of the holy temple, the place where Moses came, etc. To the Palestinians all it is, is just land. The Palestinians also only came to Israel because their ancestors in the 18 hundreds moved and stayed there. Side: Support Israelis
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The Israelits should have the land because the Jewish people settled and developed the land. the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people. The territory was captured in defensive wars. God Promised the land to the patriarch. Side: Support Israelis
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I think that the Israelis because they fought for the land and they defended the land that is now theirs. They occupied the land when the Palestinians didn't. They were forced to leave, but they came back strong and defended their land. Israel was developed by the Jews and they deserve to live in the country that is now their home. The Jews lived there longer than the Palestinians and they deserve to continue living there. Side: Support Israelis
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Israel should get the land because they were the people developed the land and lived there for a while and they defended there land so they can live and some people went away for a little bit and came back to the Palestinians were living in there houses. Side: Support Israelis
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I think the israelis should have the land. Because the palestinians were defeted in many wars and battles for the land. Also the palestinians are super violent and start anti israelie riots. Another thing is that the palestine leader sided with the nazi's. Also the jews were in that land for a lot longer time than the palestine people. The palestine leader is refusing treaties with the isreal people. All of the palestine riots resulted in a lot of casualtys Side: Support Israelis
Even though the Palestinians came first, the Israelis have had a really tough history. During World War II, the Nazis killed 6 million of them, so don't you think they at least deserve land? Plus the Palestinians weren't ever really there - Mark Twain went to Palestine in the 1800s, and he said that it was bare, and he never saw people. The Israelis don't even need that much land - except no one is willing to give it to them. Side: Support Israelis
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the Israelis were there longer and and palestine attacked the Israelis and we defended.
Supporting Evidence:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/
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Although owning land shouldn't do with religion, I think that the Jews bring up better points when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Their first point is that even if the land was truly owned by the Arabs, which I don't think it was, if it was theirs, the Jews won it back by winning a series of wars. The Jewish people, I think, have owned it all along, but they won it back even if they hadn't. Therefore, the land belongs to them today. Side: Support Israelis
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You have no proof that the Jews only have religious claims. They have many other reason why the land is theirs. Besides, the land is holy to the Palestinians. Does this mean that all of their claims about why they should get the land are religious. No. 'Exactly'. Side: Support Israelis
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You have no proof that the Jews only have religious claims. They have many other reason why the land is theirs. Besides, the land is holy to the Palestinians. Does this mean that all of their claims about why they should get the land are religious. No. 'Exactly'. Side: Support Israelis
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They may have won the land, but that doesn't mean they deserve it. The Isralis are controlling the Palestinians and making them live in a small piece of land that they don't even control. The Palestinians desrve some of the land, they deserve all of it. Side: Support Palestinians
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How would you feel if you went on vacation for the summer and someone had been living in your house, claiming that it is not yours anymore? Just because many Jews left, in which it was not there choice, doesn't mean that the Arabs get to take over the land that was truly theres! Leaving doesn't mean that the land was up for grabs. Side: Support Israelis
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I think that the Palestinians should get the land because the israeli people forced them out of their homeland Side: Support Palestinians
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They may have forced them out, but if the Arabs had given up the land that the Jews truly own, they may have been able to come to a compromise of sorts. The land is owned by the Jewish people, and the Arabs were the ones who put up a fight. It was even in writing that the Jews had accepted the two-state compromise, yet the Arabs are still at them, killing Jewish people, as they have casualties. Side: Support Israelis
I think that the Palestinians should get the land. I think this because the Iraelis have so much more than the Palestinians and it's not fair to them. The palestinians only have the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, but that's even controlled by the Israelis. The Palestinians owned the land first and it's not fair that the Israelis just decided to come and take over the land and kick them out. The Israeis put over 10,000 men, women, and children in their prisons so that they can't take their land. Side: Support Palestinians
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I kind of agree with you, but after World War II, the Israelis had no where else to go. Did the United Nations just want them to die out? No. So that's why they gave them the only open land near them. I just don't think they should start a war about it, because things would be way easier if they just shared the land. Side: Support Israelis
I think the Palestinian side deserves the land more than Israel and here's why. The united nations gave Jews Israel because they felt bad for them but 1/4 of the people in Israel are in fact not Jewish so its unfair to the Palestinians who are getting kicked out of their homes for other people than Jews. 726,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes in 1948 in the war that created Israel. Side: Support Palestinians
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I think that the Palistine should get the land because they always lived there, they owned the land and the UN had no right to give it to the Israelis. Plus, the Israelis were told that they had no right to be there by the International Court of Justices. Side: Support Palestinians
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I think the Palestinians should get the land. I think this because some of the Israeli claims are invalid because one of them states "God promised the land to Abraham. God gave the Jews Israel." well, the Palistinians are Muslim Arabs, so they do not follow or worship the religion of Judaism. Also, another reason is because if the Palestinians were to invade Israel, they would claim it to be unfair aswell. Side: Support Palestinians
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I think that the Palestinians should get the land because for example the most recent time the Israelis "defended" themselves they really were attacking innocent Palestinian civilians on Palestinian land. And the Israelis claim is that the Palestinians were attacking them. But really the Israelis were attacking them on their land - The Gaza Strip. The Israelis killed over a hunderd innocent lives after targeting there rockets on inncent Palestinian populations. And they say that the Palestinians attacked them. That is just one of there uncalled for acts on the Palestinians land. And they will probably just keep doing it if the Palestinians don't get the land. Side: Support Palestinians
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Okay, just because Jesus Christ was born on the Jewish lands does not give them the right to take territory from the Palestinians. Jesus was crucified of that land 2013 years ago and just because he was born and somewhat raised there, its not a reason to take property and land from the Palestinians. The total conflict over the years have killed 6,617 Palestinians and 1,447 Palestinian children. All the war and conflict over silly things should just stop. Side: Support Palestinians
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The land is also very sacred to the Israelis. Why do you think they share Jerusalem? They share it because the land is religious to them as well. The Jews even bring up points about how 'The Palestinians are not mentioned in the Koran'. The Jews also have history on the land, as it has been recorded that they have lived there for at least 3000 years. The land is both historic and sacred to the Jews, as it is the Arabs. Side: Support Israelis
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they shouldn't get the land because the Israelities have been driven out of so many places just because they are jewish so they need a place to call home. and also god said they can have the land. Also according to the bible, Israel is their home. They have many physical ruins and cities that blong to them and are sacred to the jews. Side: Support Israelis
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I think Palestinians should get the land because about 680,000 Jews just demanded there land back and kicked the Palestinians out. About 711,000 fled their original land to become Palestinian refugees and their leader promised they would come back when the war was won.And Israel is also a Muslims country, especially the city of Jerusalem. Side: Support Palestinians
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Also, the Palestinians should get the land because all of the claims that the Israelis have are about God, and the bible and what they said, but the Palestinians are Muslim Arabs, so they do not believe in the things that the Israelis do. Such as God, and the bible. Side: Support Palestinians
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Since the inception of Zionism, its leaders have been keen on creating a "Jewish State" based on a "Jewish majority" by mass immigration of Jews to Palestine, primarily European Jews fleeing from anti-Semitic Tsarist Russia and Nazi Germany. When a "Jewish majority" was impossible to achieve, based on Jewish immigration and natural growth, Zionist leaders (such as Ben Gurion, Moshe Sharett, Ze'ev Jabotinsky, and Chaim Weizmann) concluded that "population transfer" was the only solution to what they referred to as the "Arab Problem." Year after year, the plan to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its indigenous people became known as the "transfer solution" Side: Support Palestinians
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The Israeli side needs to understand that just because the main religion in your country is Judaism, does not mean that your/ their beliefs are the same in the opposed country they are up against. Also, the opposed countries are of a different religon and have different beliefs so it wouldn't make sence if you won because of those reasons and claims. Side: Support Palestinians
As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the israelites are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice. Side: Support Palestinians
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The Israeli supporters are saying that they have always owned the country, but there are no records still around that state that they have owned the country. They have no right to take over the land that the Palistinians are/were living in. If the Palestinians did this to the Israeis, they would ne disargeeing for the same reasons. Side: Support Palestinians
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