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Debate Score:381
Arguments:139
Total Votes:516
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Israel Land Dispute -Hour 2

Both Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Arab Muslims) believe that the land of Israel (formerly Palestine) is rightfully theirs.  State your opinion and then respond/debate to others.  You may support someone on your side, but also make counterpoints to what the other side says.  USE EVIDENCE.  You can even link your evidence if you know where you got it.  

Support Israelis

Side Score: 320
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Support Palestinians

Side Score: 61
8 points

I beleive that the Israelis should get the land because There were 6 million Jews slaughterd and killed in Europe/WW2. These families of this killing have the right to stay at their home land to keep the memories of their loved ones. Because if they leave they might not have the same memories or thoughts of them as before when they did live in their home land.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think Israelis should get the land because they have the right to the land because of all the archeological evidence and the historical right. We know that Israelis have been there for 3,000 years. Also, the United Nations did give the land to Israelis. Palestinians can move to other neighboring Arab countries, were Jews need there own land. The whole nation of Israel is small, (it can fit into Oklahoma 7 times) so Israelis aren't asking for much. Also, Israelis are a roadblock to terrorism because they ally with many countries. Although, even though I am Christian, I don't think Biblical right is a good reason because you can't prove it.

Supporting Evidence: Seven reasons the Holy land belongs to Israel (www.americaisraelprophecy.com)
Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Yes I agree with you C.J. I posted almost the same thing... There has always been a Jewish presence on/in the land at all times even when the Roman Empire conqured the land!!

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think that the Israelis should keep the land. I agree that they had that land for over 3,000 years so they should keep it.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I agree with you. I think the land is rightfully theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
0 points

It's not righfully theirs! the U.N just gave it to them without a chance of the palestinians winning.

Side: Support Palestinians
1 point

I agree they should go to Jordan or Syria. Israel is the Jewish land and without it they would have no where to go.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think the Israelis should get the land because God gave the land to the Isaerlis first and not to the Palestinians and it was not up to the Paleistinians to take over the land and claim it was theirs when in the first place it was not.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

As the Bible says, God promised the land to the Israelis and they have lived there ever since.They were the ones who settled and developed the land about 3,000 years ago. The Palestinians say that it's not fair that they don't get a homeland. But Muslims DO have one. Saudi Arabia has Mecca, the Ka-bah, and other holy places in Islam faith. Palestine is never mentioned in the Koran anyway. The Jews defended the land in war as well. It is rightfully theirs, and they should remain there.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

Israel belongs to the jews. They have occupied the land for well over 3,000 years of history. The Jews did not invade. they were invaded! they were ruled by many empires. Muslims followed them and settled in remote locations and assumed Israel was theirs! Isreal was given to the Jews by god. palastine was never mentioned in the koran, so muslims have no religeous reasons to be there.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think that the Israelis should continue to keep the land. In the 1948 war the Israelis won the war and gained control of the land. They benifited from better weapons and training. A second reason is Israel was never an arab contry, only large amounts of arabs lived there. A third reason is Israelis were always able to defend themselves from attacks. Israelis maintained their homeland for more than 3,700 years. My last reason is that in Joshua 21:43 it states that the Lord gave them the land.

Supporting Evidence: joshua (www.biblestudytools.com)
Side: Support Israelis
4 points

100000000% true I agree. they are also killing innocent children

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Since in the bible it says that God gave the land to the Israelis they should continue to keep the land. The Palestinians should not be able to take over the land. The Palestinians should beileve God and what he said and that he gave the land to the Israelis, they shouldnt keep on trying to fight the Israelis for the land.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I think that they deserve the land, because it was rightfully theirs at first, before war and everything terrible happened. After that the other people came in and took their land over! (Which wasn't very nice. >:() So because of them invading their space, they started forcefully fighting to get it back.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

The Jews should get the land because they have lived there for over 3,700 years. Also God promised the land to Abraham. The Jews settled down there and developed there, it is their homeland.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think Israel deserves this land because it was rightfully theirs in the first place. They fought for that land and they should get the land they won and worked for.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I agree with Kayla, they fought and worked for it, so it is rightfully theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
18pgibbs Disputed
0 points

Ya ok so they came to the Palestinians homes and said it was theirs then they killed inoccent people just so they could have land. That was the Palestinians land and they deserve to have a homeland to!!!

Side: Support Palestinians
5 points

Yea, I agree. They were there for over 3,700 years and it is their homeland

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

Yes! I agree with both Becca and Kayla becuase they have the histoic right. We know there has always been an Israel up until the Roman Empire. The Romans conqured the land. But Jews could still live there. But there was ALWAYS a Jewish presance in the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
2 points

But becca they left therefore giving the right to the palestinians!

Side: Support Palestinians
18mcripps(4) Disputed
4 points

But then, they left and came back and started killing innocent children with bombs.

Side: Support Palestinians
18cgjohnson(4) Disputed
4 points

i agree that what the Jews are doing is bad, but Jews have lived there for 3,000 years!! its their land

Side: Support Israelis
18mcarney(1) Disputed
3 points

And the Palestinians aren't? They were forced to leave and now they are fighting to come back. They deserve the land that was rightfully given to them because of all the suffering, now they are suffering because of the Palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree with madi its theres rightfully and they earned it fair and square and the U.N cant just give it to them.

Side: Support Palestinians
4 points

ya, because after all... The United Nations did give them the land

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
0 points

But they left the land and the palestinians took over fair and square.

Side: Support Palestinians
18pvannes(10) Disputed
5 points

Well why didn't the Palestinians have their own land before the Israelis left why do they have to take over someone elses land?

Side: Support Israelis
18mcarney(1) Disputed
3 points

They were forced to leave the land! and then the Palestinians come over and take there homeland! Now they have been given it back and could finally start a life of peace....but no the Palestinians HAD to fight for a land they took from innocent people!

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I believe that the Israelis should get the land because the U.N. gave them that land so it is rightfully theirs. It would be like me saying "here is a notebook" and you use the notebook and it helps a lot in school. Then I turn around and say "I want the notebook back. It was mine first" that doesn't make sense because when I give you something, it's yours now! Also, because it was originally Jewish land before the Persian Empire, the Jews just took back what was forcefully taken from them!

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I agree with this and I think that this is a great example of what is actually happening betweent the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I agree with this...Very good analogy! Also if lets say France were to want to destruct England the UN wouldnt just sit back and let it happen, they should sit back and watch the Palestine take over the Israelis land. They Israelis are being treated unfairly.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I agree, There is also no proof of Palisinians in that area.

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
1 point

So they can still get the land! Just becasue there is no proof!

Side: Support Palestinians
18ggaffney Disputed
-1 points

But the Israelis drew all over the "notebook". They ripped up the pages, set it on fire, and totally misused it.

I love metaphors. ^_^

Side: Support Palestinians
18mcarney(1) Disputed
1 point

the united nations gave Israel the land and they cant just take it back! The Palestinians are fighting for something that wasn't theres to begin with!

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

"Land of Israel" is found in the Hebrew Bible, that is the bible the Israelis follow and its not called the "Land of Palestine". This means this isn't the Arabs land.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I think that the land belongs to the Israelis because God assigned the land to the Jewish, also the United Nations gave land to Israel in Palestine, you can't just give something to someone and just take it back... After you give something away, it is no longer yours.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Exactly! I agree! It's unfair to give Jews the land, and then take it back!

Side: Support Israelis
18mcripps(4) Disputed
1 point

Saying that God assigned the land to the Jewish, isn't really a good reason for them to have the land because who really knows? And plus, the Palestinians took the land AFTER the Israelis left. So I agree with one part, you can't leave some where in such a big group, and then come back and claim it's yours.

Side: Support Palestinians
18mcarney(1) Disputed
3 points

They were FORCED to leave! They wouldn't have if they weren't forced to! SO your whole country gets taken away as slaves, but you finally get away after generations, just to find out that some other country took over your land. that is unfair.

Side: Support Israelis
18lhartman Disputed
2 points

this is not true the land was thiers for 3000 years or more!

Side: Support Israelis
18lhartman Disputed
1 point

no this is not true Jews stayed for over 3000 years vote down on ones that say stuff like that

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree, if the Palestinians gave thr israeils the land back then they cant just take it back if they gave it to the Israelis in the first place. Once you give somebody something you cant take it back, especally something as big as land. Why would they give it up something if they want it back right way?

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
-1 points

What if someone doesn't belive in god then you cant tell them that its theres becasue god says so. You need to earn it fair in square.

Side: Support Palestinians
18kwirth(12) Disputed
3 points

They did earn it fair and square they won war for the land and then got it taken from them.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

In 165 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom lasted 99 years but was destroyed after Romans captured Jerusalem. During this time, the Israelis people developed the land and were willing to fight for it.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Israel belongs to the jews. They have occupied the land for well over 3,000 years of history. The Jews did not invade. they were invaded! they were ruled by many empires. Muslims followed them and settled in remote locations and assumed Israel was theirs! Isreal was given to the Jews by god. palastine was never mentioned in the koran, so muslims have no religeous reasons to be there.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

this is all totaly true, although the city jarusalum may be sacred to the muslims as well, that doesnt give them a reason to invade.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Most of the international community supports the two-state solution except the Palestinians want the whole land to themselves, they are greedy and unwilling to comprimise. They dont want their own state they just want Isreal with out one.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

Due to the Palestine's small population (almost all are Arabs), Arabs living in Palestine should become part of a different Arab country, like Syria. The Arabs also have numbers of countries to live in, with millions of miles, where the Israelis have no homeland to live on. The Arab people in Palestine could easily move to a different Arab country, so that the Jewish people can live where they once did for so long and the place they loved.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I agree, plus there is no where else in the world except Israel that the majority of population beglongs to the Jewish people, Palestines have Jordan and Syria.

Side: Support Israelis
18pgibbs Disputed
1 point

Just to clarify the Israel people due have the land right now so techniacally the Palestinians have no homeland right now the Israel people due?.

Side: Support Palestinians
4 points

Jews need a homeland! They were FORCED to leave in WW2 and when they came back, they came back strong. They were willing to fight for the land even though it was theirs all along. Also, when Jews left, Palestinians just kinda moved in like "hey! free land!" and they knew it belonged to Israelis.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The Palestinians were fighting the Israelis. They STARTED the drama and all of the fighting. They do not deserve the land becasue of this. This is their consequnce for starting the whole mess!!

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Yes!! I agree! They need to talk it out and not fight! (They should use this website:))

Side: Support Israelis
0 points

They do need to talk it out! If they could have some stricter rules then maybe they wouldnt be fighter over it! Maybe if they just tryed one little bit, they could get along just fine..!

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The United Nations ruled that Great Britain should be the Mandatory government of the country which would provide the Jewish people their homeland. If the Jewish people were not provided this homeland they could have been easily persecuted since it was around World War 2, and during that time Jews were getting killed. When the Jews came to back to the land, they didn't want to take it from the Arabs, but instead they were given it from the United Nations. The Arabs can't deny the United Nations decision so they have to let the Israelis live their. The Jews also didn't want to cause conflict between the two, but the Arabs did because now the two are at war.

Side: Support Israelis
0 points

I completely agree with you Nathan. Like if the United Nations gave Jews the land, wouldn't you think Palestinians would back off?

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

Jewish people take the land so serious to them that they had been praying for nearly 2,000 years wanting to come back. To the Arabs living in this area, it is just some place for them and it never even became a real Arab country.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

ya!!! If the Palestinians want to be in a real Arab country, there's plenty of them! Jews need their own homeland.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I think that it is really wrong that the palistine people would go against what was promised to other people from God. I read, in the link that God made a promise to Abraham about the land. The other country should respecet that.

Supporting Evidence: God's promises to Abraham about Israel (www.gotquestions.org)
Side: Support Israelis
3 points

Yea, I agree. God is overall ruler and basically they are saying that he is just like anyone else. Basically thelling them they are stupid beleivers.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

The Jews have enough to in only 2 centuries rebound from looseing many many people in WW II. They were granted the land in 1948 and were already in the land before, it just wasn't called theirs. Also God gave it to them and He is overall ruler. They also had independince in that land for over 212 years (almost as long as us.)

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I believe very strongly that we should support Israel, and that it has a right to the land, because God said so. In Genesis 13:14-17, the Bible says: "The Lord said to Abram, "Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, southward, eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever... Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee." This is the Lord speaking to the Israelis that they should get the land...

Supporting Evidence: 7 Rights to the Land (www.aish.com)
Side: Support Israelis
1 point

True, and Israelis pray for the land. They've been praying for about since the Romans took them as slaves. That's about 2,000 years?

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

Jewish kingdoms had ruled "Palestine" for over a thousand years and the land, especially Jerusalem, were central or important to the Jewish religion.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Even though I am Christian, and support Israelis... I don't think Biblical rights are good enough... I mean like, how do you prove it?

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I was thinking that too. Because no one really knows what happended. Evidence for that is hard.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Ok, think about it this way. Lets say Canada took all U.S. citizens in as slaves. 2 years later, we come back to the U.S. What we find is that Mexico took over our land. Our land. Would we just say "Oh, that's ok. Go ahead and rob my house while your at it.". No! We would try everything to get our land back. That's what is happening to Jews! Of course you would want YOUR land back!

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Exactly!!!! I don't understand how people thinik it's 'okay' to go and take something that' s not theirs! And won't ever be theirs!

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

WONDER FULL, i LOVE TOUR ANAlogy I would vote up But i did that too much

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Israel belongs to the jews because there is NO evidence of Palestinians living there! plus there are many Muslim countries, but how many Jewish? So the muslims just HAVE to have another country? No. they dont. they can run to all the other muslim countries and leave this small jewish country alone!

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree with the Palestinians because many Jewish people were killed by the Nazi which then, they were allowed to migrate to Palestine, with Britians agreement, so they basically took over the land. Since the Israelis took over there country, millions of Palestinians are living in poor conditions at refugee camps. The Israelis captured thousands of Palestine prisoners and won't release any, especially women and children.

Supporting Evidence: The Israel-Palestinian Conflict in a Nutshell (www.mideastweb.org)
Side: Support Palestinians
18cgjohnson(4) Disputed
3 points

Madi, the United Nations gave Israelis the land, therefore, it's theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
18ldrews(1) Disputed
2 points

Cj, they didn't even get a chance to fight for the land! Its not fair that the U.N just gave it to them. Plus isreal's are getting lots of money from other contnrys when the palestinians are barrly getting any.

Side: Support Palestinians
18mcripps(4) Disputed
-2 points
18gbosch(5) Disputed
3 points

They didn't take over. They were already there. It's the center of Judaism. Muslims have their Saudi Arabia with Mecca and Ka'bah, so they should live there.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

yer tinght grant this is the only place jews can call their homland

Side: Support Israelis
18gbosch(5) Disputed
2 points

Isrealis are peaceful people. They never tortured anyone.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

true true true vote it up Isralis lived here for a long time, like 3000 years more

Side: Support Israelis
18lhartman Disputed
1 point

palestines can go anywere and fit in. ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Support Israelis
18lhartman Disputed
1 point

no palestien lived here before the jews. thats like saying christopher culumbus was here before native americans. vote up if you like the analogy :)

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree the Palestinians were living there and the Israelies came and kicked them out of their homes.

Side: Support Palestinians
18rknoke(7) Disputed
1 point

It was there land first and they deserve to have it, they Palestinians never fought back when they came and "invaded" there land.

Side: Support Israelis
-2 points
-2 points
18lhartman Disputed
3 points

NO no no that is true but jews were there longer and they were promised the land

Side: Support Israelis
18mcarney(1) Disputed
2 points

The United Nations gave the Jews the land, so it is rightfully theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
18cgjohnson(4) Disputed
2 points

I don't think so because the United Nations gave Jews the land, and Jews fought for it. Palestinians can move to other neighboring Arab countries and Jews need a homeland

Side: Support Israelis
-2 points
18lhartman Disputed
3 points

That is nothing! the jews lived there for well over 3000 years.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

evry body vote up on strong arguments for points on either side just dont vote down. that is mean

Side: Support Israelis
18rknoke(7) Disputed
3 points

There is no evidence in any palininian ever living there before the Isralies.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Exactly! and they say its THEIR homeland when there is no evidence!

Side: Support Israelis
18lstichart(8) Disputed
2 points

The Isrealis lived there way longer than the Palestinians did the Isrealis lived there for over 3,700 years. the Israelis should keep the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18cgjohnson(4) Disputed
1 point

The Jews were forced to leave, and when they came back they were willing to fight for their land even though it was theirs all along!!!

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I totally agree with Cj, why should you have to fight for something that was/is already yours?

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Well Payton I highly disagree. We have lived on this land all of our life there has always been a Jewish presence on the land no matter what we were always there. We have all the historic right as well! The culture, the pottery, and the cities! They all show that the Jews were here all their life. Even through the Roman Empire! They are here to STAY!!

Side: Support Palestinians
18tt225 Disputed
2 points

Well Chanler, I highly disagree with you. your Israelis have pushed out the palistinians who were living there first before god told the Israelis to go and Kick out people living in an already occupied land.

Side: Support Palestinians
0 points

I agree Payton, even if the Palestinian's arn't able to get back all of the land, they should at least share it.

Side: Support Palestinians
18kwirth(12) Disputed
1 point

EXACTALLY! THE PALESTINIANS DONT WANT TO SHARE IT....THEY'RE SELFISH AND DONT WANT TO COMPRIMISE!

Side: Support Israelis
-3 points
-4 points
18pvannes(10) Disputed
4 points

If God gave them the land that means the land it theirs and other people should not have gone there in the first place and if they knew it was their land then why did they go there, why didn't they find their own land to live on?

Side: Support Israelis
18lladd(8) Disputed
2 points

God is the one that created earth... If he wanted it like that, then it should be like that. Obviously he had a purpose for putting it there.

Side: Support Israelis
18tt225 Disputed
0 points

but did the Israelis have to kick everybody else who was living there out?

Side: Support Palestinians
0 points

But going off of yours, he also has a reason for making them into this argument. He must have some reason we just don't know.

Side: Support Israelis
18rknoke(7) Disputed
1 point

But the Israelis were the first ones on the land. There was never any record of Palisinians in the land before them. Think of it like a house, so I built this house and lived in it for 40 years, then went on vacation for 2 years and when I come back someone else is living there, I would forcefully make them leave. Wouldn't you?

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree with Becca, if I found someone in my house when I got back on vacation or something I would kick them out because I built the house for me not for someone else to come and live in it while I was gone.

Side: Support Israelis
-4 points
18gbosch(5) Disputed
2 points

Jews didn't force them to leave. Palestinians handed the land over to them. Giving them even less right to try to take it back.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree! They didn't fight back to them when they were in the land.

Side: Support Israelis