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Israel Land Dispute -Hour 2
Both Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Arab Muslims) believe that the land of Israel (formerly Palestine) is rightfully theirs. State your opinion and then respond/debate to others. You may support someone on your side, but also make counterpoints to what the other side says. USE EVIDENCE. You can even link your evidence if you know where you got it.
I beleive that the Israelis should get the land because There were 6 million Jews slaughterd and killed in Europe/WW2. These families of this killing have the right to stay at their home land to keep the memories of their loved ones. Because if they leave they might not have the same memories or thoughts of them as before when they did live in their home land.
Palestinians didn't just kill Israelis; Israelis killed Palestinians. Not to mention, they bombed young children, how do they have anything to do with whats going on?
I think Israelis should get the land because they have the right to the land because of all the archeological evidence and the historical right. We know that Israelis have been there for 3,000 years. Also, the United Nations did give the land to Israelis. Palestinians can move to other neighboring Arab countries, were Jews need there own land. The whole nation of Israel is small, (it can fit into Oklahoma 7 times) so Israelis aren't asking for much. Also, Israelis are a roadblock to terrorism because they ally with many countries. Although, even though I am Christian, I don't think Biblical right is a good reason because you can't prove it.
Yes I agree with you C.J. I posted almost the same thing... There has always been a Jewish presence on/in the land at all times even when the Roman Empire conqured the land!!
It is rightfully theirs... Because the U.N. gave it to them, if the Palestinians wanted to fight back then they should have. If the Palestinians wanted the land, they should have fought for it. But they didn't. So it belongs to Israel.
I think the Israelis should get the land because God gave the land to the Isaerlis first and not to the Palestinians and it was not up to the Paleistinians to take over the land and claim it was theirs when in the first place it was not.
As the Bible says, God promised the land to the Israelis and they have lived there ever since.They were the ones who settled and developed the land about 3,000 years ago. The Palestinians say that it's not fair that they don't get a homeland. But Muslims DO have one. Saudi Arabia has Mecca, the Ka-bah, and other holy places in Islam faith. Palestine is never mentioned in the Koran anyway. The Jews defended the land in war as well. It is rightfully theirs, and they should remain there.
Israel belongs to the jews. They have occupied the land for well over 3,000 years of history. The Jews did not invade. they were invaded! they were ruled by many empires. Muslims followed them and settled in remote locations and assumed Israel was theirs! Isreal was given to the Jews by god. palastine was never mentioned in the koran, so muslims have no religeous reasons to be there.
I think that the Israelis should continue to keep the land. In the 1948 war the Israelis won the war and gained control of the land. They benifited from better weapons and training. A second reason is Israel was never an arab contry, only large amounts of arabs lived there. A third reason is Israelis were always able to defend themselves from attacks. Israelis maintained their homeland for more than 3,700 years. My last reason is that in Joshua 21:43 it states that the Lord gave them the land.
Since in the bible it says that God gave the land to the Israelis they should continue to keep the land. The Palestinians should not be able to take over the land. The Palestinians should beileve God and what he said and that he gave the land to the Israelis, they shouldnt keep on trying to fight the Israelis for the land.
I think that they deserve the land, because it was rightfully theirs at first, before war and everything terrible happened. After that the other people came in and took their land over! (Which wasn't very nice. >:() So because of them invading their space, they started forcefully fighting to get it back.
The Jews should get the land because they have lived there for over 3,700 years. Also God promised the land to Abraham. The Jews settled down there and developed there, it is their homeland.
I think Israel deserves this land because it was rightfully theirs in the first place. They fought for that land and they should get the land they won and worked for.
Ya ok so they came to the Palestinians homes and said it was theirs then they killed inoccent people just so they could have land. That was the Palestinians land and they deserve to have a homeland to!!!
Payton, everyone is in favor of a two-state land except the Palestinians. They are able to have their own land but they're greedy,selfish and dont want to comprimise!!!
And the Palestinians aren't doing harsh stuff either? Yes they are! They are doing about the same amount, plus Israelis have a reason to be harsh and creul because they tried everything and Palestinians won't give it up
Yes! I agree with both Becca and Kayla becuase they have the histoic right. We know there has always been an Israel up until the Roman Empire. The Romans conqured the land. But Jews could still live there. But there was ALWAYS a Jewish presance in the land.
And the Palestinians aren't? They were forced to leave and now they are fighting to come back. They deserve the land that was rightfully given to them because of all the suffering, now they are suffering because of the Palestinians.
But they didn't get it fair and square. The U.N gave it to them yeah I agree with that but thats not fair they didn't even fight for it the U.N just gave it to them.
They were forced to leave the land! and then the Palestinians come over and take there homeland! Now they have been given it back and could finally start a life of peace....but no the Palestinians HAD to fight for a land they took from innocent people!
I believe that the Israelis should get the land because the U.N. gave them that land so it is rightfully theirs. It would be like me saying "here is a notebook" and you use the notebook and it helps a lot in school. Then I turn around and say "I want the notebook back. It was mine first" that doesn't make sense because when I give you something, it's yours now! Also, because it was originally Jewish land before the Persian Empire, the Jews just took back what was forcefully taken from them!
I agree with this...Very good analogy! Also if lets say France were to want to destruct England the UN wouldnt just sit back and let it happen, they should sit back and watch the Palestine take over the Israelis land. They Israelis are being treated unfairly.
They didn't even give the palestinians a chance. If the palestinians would have won they would have gotton the land fair and square but becasue the U.N gave it to them without even giving them a chance to win.
Jews defended the land from Palestinians. FAIR AND SQUARE. The Palestinians lost the war, Israelis should get the land. Palestinians keep on attacking, but Israelis keep on stopping them. Palestinians keep dying because of their war failures. If they stopped attacking, none of them would die.
"Land of Israel" is found in the Hebrew Bible, that is the bible the Israelis follow and its not called the "Land of Palestine". This means this isn't the Arabs land.
your forgetting the part where your Israelis completely took over an already occupied land, and made others suffer in refugee camps. the Palistinians only fought back to get their homes back
THE PALESTINES FOUGHT TO GET LAND BACK THAT WASNT THEIRS IN THE FIRST PLACE! and I agree with the statement "Land of Israel" in the Hebrew bible! It doesnt mention "Palestine" in there precious koran does it?
NO! THEY NEVER COMPLETELY LEFT! THEY WERE THERE FOR OVER 3000 YEARS! THEY ARE PEACFULL AND ONLY FIGHTING FOR WHAT IS THEIRS! sorry had to use caps lock SUPPORTING THE JEWS!
I think that the land belongs to the Israelis because God assigned the land to the Jewish, also the United Nations gave land to Israel in Palestine, you can't just give something to someone and just take it back... After you give something away, it is no longer yours.
Saying that God assigned the land to the Jewish, isn't really a good reason for them to have the land because who really knows? And plus, the Palestinians took the land AFTER the Israelis left. So I agree with one part, you can't leave some where in such a big group, and then come back and claim it's yours.
They were FORCED to leave! They wouldn't have if they weren't forced to! SO your whole country gets taken away as slaves, but you finally get away after generations, just to find out that some other country took over your land. that is unfair.
I agree, if the Palestinians gave thr israeils the land back then they cant just take it back if they gave it to the Israelis in the first place. Once you give somebody something you cant take it back, especally something as big as land. Why would they give it up something if they want it back right way?
I agree Kayla! I think when they faught, the Palistine people, the Palistine people had nothing to go off, (go off to another land) So they had to start a war, and couldn't share the land like nice people!
In 165 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom lasted 99 years but was destroyed after Romans captured Jerusalem. During this time, the Israelis people developed the land and were willing to fight for it.
Israel belongs to the jews. They have occupied the land for well over 3,000 years of history. The Jews did not invade. they were invaded! they were ruled by many empires. Muslims followed them and settled in remote locations and assumed Israel was theirs! Isreal was given to the Jews by god. palastine was never mentioned in the koran, so muslims have no religeous reasons to be there.
Most of the international community supports the two-state solution except the Palestinians want the whole land to themselves, they are greedy and unwilling to comprimise. They dont want their own state they just want Isreal with out one.
Due to the Palestine's small population (almost all are Arabs), Arabs living in Palestine should become part of a different Arab country, like Syria. The Arabs also have numbers of countries to live in, with millions of miles, where the Israelis have no homeland to live on. The Arab people in Palestine could easily move to a different Arab country, so that the Jewish people can live where they once did for so long and the place they loved.
I agree, plus there is no where else in the world except Israel that the majority of population beglongs to the Jewish people, Palestines have Jordan and Syria.
Jews need a homeland! They were FORCED to leave in WW2 and when they came back, they came back strong. They were willing to fight for the land even though it was theirs all along. Also, when Jews left, Palestinians just kinda moved in like "hey! free land!" and they knew it belonged to Israelis.
The Palestinians were fighting the Israelis. They STARTED the drama and all of the fighting. They do not deserve the land becasue of this. This is their consequnce for starting the whole mess!!
They do need to talk it out! If they could have some stricter rules then maybe they wouldnt be fighter over it! Maybe if they just tryed one little bit, they could get along just fine..!
The United Nations ruled that Great Britain should be the Mandatory government of the country which would provide the Jewish people their homeland. If the Jewish people were not provided this homeland they could have been easily persecuted since it was around World War 2, and during that time Jews were getting killed. When the Jews came to back to the land, they didn't want to take it from the Arabs, but instead they were given it from the United Nations. The Arabs can't deny the United Nations decision so they have to let the Israelis live their. The Jews also didn't want to cause conflict between the two, but the Arabs did because now the two are at war.
Jewish people take the land so serious to them that they had been praying for nearly 2,000 years wanting to come back. To the Arabs living in this area, it is just some place for them and it never even became a real Arab country.
I think that it is really wrong that the palistine people would go against what was promised to other people from God. I read, in the link that God made a promise to Abraham about the land. The other country should respecet that.
The Jews have enough to in only 2 centuries rebound from looseing many many people in WW II. They were granted the land in 1948 and were already in the land before, it just wasn't called theirs. Also God gave it to them and He is overall ruler. They also had independince in that land for over 212 years (almost as long as us.)
I believe very strongly that we should support Israel, and that it has a right to the land, because God said so. In Genesis 13:14-17, the Bible says: "The Lord said to Abram, "Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, southward, eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever... Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee." This is the Lord speaking to the Israelis that they should get the land...
Ok, think about it this way. Lets say Canada took all U.S. citizens in as slaves. 2 years later, we come back to the U.S. What we find is that Mexico took over our land. Our land. Would we just say "Oh, that's ok. Go ahead and rob my house while your at it.". No! We would try everything to get our land back. That's what is happening to Jews! Of course you would want YOUR land back!
Israel belongs to the jews because there is NO evidence of Palestinians living there! plus there are many Muslim countries, but how many Jewish? So the muslims just HAVE to have another country? No. they dont. they can run to all the other muslim countries and leave this small jewish country alone!
I agree with the Palestinians because many Jewish people were killed by the Nazi which then, they were allowed to migrate to Palestine, with Britians agreement, so they basically took over the land. Since the Israelis took over there country, millions of Palestinians are living in poor conditions at refugee camps. The Israelis captured thousands of Palestine prisoners and won't release any, especially women and children.
Cj, they didn't even get a chance to fight for the land! Its not fair that the U.N just gave it to them. Plus isreal's are getting lots of money from other contnrys when the palestinians are barrly getting any.
I looked this up. It says in the bible that the Jews were taken by Roman soldiers to be slaves. They didn't try to leave, they were forced. Then the whole WW2 happened and they went through more suffering. Now the Palestinians are making them suffer more.
"In 1967, an additional 200,000 Palestinians [2] fled their homes in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip when Israel launched a war against Jordan and Egypt, capturing and occupying the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip (the Occupied Palestinian Territories)." Later on, it says that Israel started a war against Palestinians and took over there countries. Israelis have put Palestinians in refugee camps, captured them, bombed children, won't let women or children leave, and now they are taking over Palestinians land? How is that fair?
They didn't take over. They were already there. It's the center of Judaism. Muslims have their Saudi Arabia with Mecca and Ka'bah, so they should live there.
I think the palestinians should get the land becasue the U.N says they have a right to return and a right to the property they were kicked out of. Also in 2000 1,516 palestinian children were killed and only 129 israel children were killed. The U.S is giving 8.5 million dollars to the israel's and 0 to the palestinians. 27000 palestinian homes have been destoryed and 0 israeli homes have been destroyed. only 5.6 isreals are umemployed and 23.5% palestinians in the west bank are unemployed and 40% in gaza.
"Fear is the main factor in (Palestinian) Arab politics...there is no Arab who is not harmed by Jews' entry into Palestine." The Jewish have been forceful, expelling Palestinians from their homeland with no tolerance, whatsoever. They created, by force a state for themselves. dun hate : /
I don't think so because the United Nations gave Jews the land, and Jews fought for it. Palestinians can move to other neighboring Arab countries and Jews need a homeland
I think the Palestinians should get the land because they have lived there for hundreds of years. I also think the Palestinians should get the land because Israel forced the Palestinians to leave their HOMES and flee to nearby refugee camps. Israel killed and injured many Palestinians including 1,516 inoccent chidren in the year 2000 ONLY!!! Also I think Israels resons why they should get the land are ridiculous!!! What kind of reason is this!!! "God gave the Jews israel."!!! Thats like saying I stole something from the store and said God gave it to me. And that is why I think the Palestinians should get THEIR homeland!!!
Well Payton I highly disagree. We have lived on this land all of our life there has always been a Jewish presence on the land no matter what we were always there. We have all the historic right as well! The culture, the pottery, and the cities! They all show that the Jews were here all their life. Even through the Roman Empire! They are here to STAY!!
Well Chanler, I highly disagree with you. your Israelis have pushed out the palistinians who were living there first before god told the Israelis to go and Kick out people living in an already occupied land.
Okay this is not true. Where is the evidance for this? How can I prove it? I believe very strongly that we should support Israel, and that it has a right to the land, because God said so. In Genesis 13:14-17, the Bible says: "The Lord said to Abram, "Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, southward, eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever... Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee."
Okay well where is this evidance? Where is the proof? But I do have proof....
I believe very strongly that we ought to support Israel, and that it has a right to the land, because God said so. In Genesis 13:14-17, the Bible says: "The Lord said to Abram, "Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, southward, eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever... Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee."
I think the Palestinians should get the land because, they were there the same ammout of years as the Jews were. 711,00 to 725,000 were fled from their homes because of the Jews, in the years of 1947-1948. The Palestinians stayed on the land when the Jews left in groups. The Jews made them leave and live in camps, because the wanted their land back. They stayed there and took care of the land and this is how they thanked them.
Having god say you can have some land that belonged to somebody else does not mean you can go and kick every body else out. As Palentinian claims, "The Jewish left and came back forcefully. They made Palestinians leave their homes and flee to refugee camps in neighboring arab countries" that proves it.
If God gave them the land that means the land it theirs and other people should not have gone there in the first place and if they knew it was their land then why did they go there, why didn't they find their own land to live on?
Yeah, the Palestinians came and kind of invaded their land what else could they do protest? ask them nicely to move off their land? I think in this situation that probably would not work out so well. It was really the only thing they could have done.
But the Israelis were the first ones on the land. There was never any record of Palisinians in the land before them. Think of it like a house, so I built this house and lived in it for 40 years, then went on vacation for 2 years and when I come back someone else is living there, I would forcefully make them leave. Wouldn't you?
I agree with Becca, if I found someone in my house when I got back on vacation or something I would kick them out because I built the house for me not for someone else to come and live in it while I was gone.
I think the Palestinians should be able to have the land because the Palestinian claims are more resonable than Isreali's claims. This is what I found on a website: "There are now about 4 million Palestinian refugees, many of them are living at refugee camps in poor contion in the West Bank, Gaza, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq." I think it's unfair to the Palestinian people because they were living peacefuly, until the Israli's forced them to leave their homes.