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Debate Score:394
Arguments:108
Total Votes:509
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Israel Land Dispute -Hour 1

Both Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Arab Muslims) believe that the land of Israel (formerly Palestine) is rightfully theirs.  State your opinion and then respond/debate to others.  You may support someone on your side, but also make counterpoints to what the other side says.  USE EVIDENCE.  You can even link your evidence if you know where you got it.  

Support Israelis

Side Score: 289
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Support Palestinians

Side Score: 105
10 points

Many people from Israel say that the Palestine have NEVER been mentioned in the Koran//Quran. Sure some say they it does say Palestine in some peoples books but do they have evidence? On most sites, all of them say that Palestine has never been mentioned 40 times or more because it has NEVER been mentioned.

Side: Support Israelis
10 points

The Israelis should have the land because even though they did leave, but they maintained ties to the land for 3,000 years. When there are archeological digs in Israel they coins and pottery that proof the Jewish people have occupied the land for 3,000 years.

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

I agree with you Carrie, and also the Israelis had legal ownership of the land through the United Nations and the United States.

Side: Support Israelis
9 points

The Jews won war against the Palestines so i think, they deserve at least some land to live on after they have faught war and should get a reward. Plus, the United nations gave the land or at least MADE the land for them.

Side: Support Israelis
8 points

Joshua 21:43 god gave the isrealis all the land of isreal

Supporting Evidence: joshua 21:43-45 (www.biblestudytools.com)
Side: Support Israelis
18eschaut(5) Disputed
3 points

Why would you leave if god said that you could have the land? He allowed you to have the land, so keep it.

Side: Support Palestinians
8 points

Israel is a holy place, many people that are Christian or many muslims think its a holy place. They say that jew's weren't in Israel, but in truth, all of the Jew's were scattered around, all over the country, even in Jerusalem.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

I support the israelis because they had the land from the begining and they have defended the land and been in wars before the palestinians even were there so they should defenitly get the land. I think israel should stop the violence if they get the land because they are killing innocent adults and children.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

i agree with justin because the lord allmighty gave the land and that whole land to the isrealis. i dont agree that two wrongs make a right but it was there land that wad basicly being invaded by the palistinians.

Side: Support Israelis
18jmereness Disputed
2 points

ya but they left and the palistinans took the land so the land should be owned by the palistinans

Side: Support Palestinians
18jsmith(12) Disputed
7 points

i disagree becasue they had the land from the begining and they should get it back because the palistinans didn't get named a country and they don't have paperwork saying they are a country.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

The United Nations along with the United States had a meeting on November 29th, 1947 addressing the subject of land. The Israelis people said that they had also lived on that land since the begining of time and that it should be allowed for them to take ownership in at least a fraction of the land. The people had a vote with the plan being accepted by the Jewish Community of Palestine and being declined by the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee. The majority of votes went towards the Israelites. The United Nations also stated that they have mandatory power of the Palestine's so they must obey the newest orders. Also, the Palestinian's did not lose all their land, they were able to keep the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, making it a fair land trade between the Israelites and the Palestinian's.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

I think that isreal should have the land. I support israel because they settled in this land and developed this land to what it is today. Also this was never a real arab country, it was always ruled by isreal

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

i support Ryan tessners post becausse i agree that the land wouldnt be like that unless the israels didnt have it so they should have the land

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

I think that the Isrealis should get the land because it says in the Bible that God promised the land to Abraham and the Jews. The Bible pretty much over rules all other arguments. I also think that the Isrealis should get the land because they were driven out of the land because of the hohcaust. So the Palistinians weren't the only ones that were homeless. 6 billion Jews died due to the Hitler and the Nazi's. Also the United Nations gave the land to the Jews in 1948. So why are the Palistians even trying? If the land was given to the Jews not only by the UN, but also by God, then they rightfully own it.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

I agree with you Brenna, the United Nations and the United States rightfully granted the Israelis the land, not the Palestine's.

Side: Support Israelis
7 points

Okay, if you left to go to on a vacation of a few nights, and you when you left your sister/brother move into to your room while your away. When you come back, you're going to be mad and want your room back, it's the exact same situation. Only its not a simple bedroom.

Side: Support Israelis
18bwillard(6) Disputed
4 points

Even Ms. Swanson said that, that post was "Very Good." I win. You lose.

Side: Support Palestinians
3 points

That is a really good point! I'm pretty sure if anyone would be mad if their brother or sister took over their room after they left for a vaction!!!! Even though people are saying,"Well they left" I'm pretty sure if that happened to them they would be mad

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

It's a really good point because I know if my brother of sister took over my room when I left for a couple of nights to go on vacation I know I would be mad if my brother took over my room, and I think everyone would be mad and want there room back because it was right fully there's, it the same situation.

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

support the islamisc country because the the jewish people had a lot to go thourght and survived. during the holocuast the jewish number went down by alot thire are still a lot of muslium people in the world the jewish has a very small amount of numbersstill over ruled by muslim.they also went to war with them many of times and won many of themand gjot them off their land. the israel people said that they never looked and the koran or the rercords of Israel that could be ture the Koran has some history behind that even if its the small evidence that what made me pick this side the history says everything. if the people of Isreal were not in the rage they are not in right dated back to the oldest koran that was written they have the a large evidence that they would have own the land before the palstinian. did also what they have the united nation helped the jewish people in hard times so they had land. also as an opion why would the palstinian settle in Isreal when they have pakstian the (I am thinking thats righy)palestinian have that chunk of land to move on. or if noun of Isreal or palstinian don't want jot put and agreement or peace tready then ( I hate to say this to Isreal ) the country got to greedy for power.

Side: Support Israelis
18cgranger(2) Clarified
1 point

But that doesnt mean they can just bomb them to make them go away, they are the ones that left in the first place. Its the jews fault for leaving.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I support the isrealis because they had the land before the palestinains came in

Side: Support Israelis
6 points

I support your claim because it's just like if somebody were to go to school and then come back and find that their house has been taken over by a ton of random strangers. It's your land so you want random people to get off of it.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

the isrealis had the land in 1948. the palestinians moved into the land in 1967. so in that case the isrealis had the land first

Side: Support Israelis
18amarhefke(3) Disputed
5 points

Just because they had the land first doesn't mean that no one else can have it. It is like if someone had a pencil and they lost it and you find it you don't necessarily have to give it back. You found it.

Side: Support Palestinians
18aspielvoge(16) Disputed
6 points

but we are dealing with something bigger than a pencil we are dealing with i big chunck of land

Side: Support Israelis
18nbroehm(7) Disputed
1 point

Yes it does mean no one else can have it they left the land because of the HOLOCAUST and they rightfully owned the land already, plus the United Nations already gave them the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18jmereness Disputed
4 points

ya but they left so rightfully the palistinans own the land

Side: Support Palestinians
18dyang(15) Disputed
6 points

Even when they left, they still faught against eachother. And guess what? I still believe that the Jews won that war. Plus, just because the palestine's took over the land, doesn't mean they OWN the land and doesn't even mean that they made that country in the first place.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

sorry but you are wrong johzia because i am right hahahaha

Side: Support Palestinians
18amarhefke(3) Clarified
4 points

Are you disputing me or agreeing with me? Your reply doesn't make sense.

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I feel that if the un just decides that the israilis get the land thats not right

Side: Support Palestinians
5 points

The Jewish people should be able to live in Israel. I think that the Jewish people should beable to live in Israel because the international community gave the Jewish people the land of Israel, also because The Palestine never demanded a home land but yet the had a problem with the Jews having a home land.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I support the israelis because i think that the Palestinians should never get the land because it was the israelis to begin with. They got Isreal in 1948.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I do support the Israelis because of all the information that i found do the supporting details. Even though president Obama and other congress think that Israel is not being a good country

but they have reasons to be because in Bible a bible verse God said the land may be given to the Israelis.

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I think that since God promised the land to Abraham, and God gave the Jews Israel, they should have the land NOT the Palestinians. The jewish people have lived there before the Palestinians. The Israelis settled and developed the land. The jews deserve the land because most were driven out of Europe during the holocaust. (Holocaust is the mass murder of Jews under German Nazi control during 1941-1945. Around 6 million Jews were executed. The Jews were homeless too, not just the Palestinians.

Supporting Evidence: HOLOCAUST ENCYCLOPEDIA (www.ushmm.org)
Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I agree The Jews have been persecuted in World War 2 during the Holocaust, and in Russia since the advent of Communism, even before then under the Czars. The Jews need a homeland where they won't be persecuted if Israel isn't the place where else woukd be?

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

palestinians dont have as much experience in land ownership than the lsrealis do

Side: Support Israelis
18eschaut(5) Disputed
3 points

That doesn't mean that much either because just because you don't have as much land experience, doesn't mean you have to leave the land.

Side: Support Palestinians
18jmereness Disputed
3 points

ya but they left so they the land should be owned by palistinans

Side: Support Palestinians
5 points

I support the Israelis because they had the land first and the Palestinian wants it so bad but it is useless. They defended and won the war between each other

Side: Support Israelis
5 points

I support israel because the international community granted that the jewish people get the land in 1948

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

i think that the isrealis should have isreal because it was their ;and in the beginning then they left then the palistaines moved in and now they want the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18jmereness Disputed
2 points

because you cant leave and come back and say i own the land get off

Side: Support Palestinians
18jsmith(12) Disputed
3 points

yea but you guys wernt a country and there was nothing in history saying that you guys were a country so you guys can't just come and say i won the land and get off.

Side: Support Israelis
18rtessner(9) Disputed
1 point

Im leaning back towards israel because palistan never owned the land. israel deserves it because they were the founders of the land

Side: Support Israelis
4 points

I think that the isrealis should have isreal, because it was their and in the beginning then they left then the palistaines moved in and now they want the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18jmereness Disputed
3 points

ya but the isrealis came back and just took it they left and they came back and now its there way the palistinans took it fairly cause the land was open for enybody so they took it because you they were gone

Side: Support Palestinians
18eschaut(5) Disputed
2 points

Well you can't just leave and say "I want the land back." That's like saying someone got up at a movie theatre and when you came back someone was in your spot. You can't just order that person to get out of your spot.

Side: Support Palestinians
4 points

Israel was captured in defensive was by the Israelites so the land is rightfully theirs. Palestine was never a real Arab country because there was never an independent state in Palestine.

Supporting Evidence: Resons why I think this (www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org)
Side: Support Israelis
4 points

The Palestinians have nowhere as good as army as the israelis because they do not have as strong as army, therefore they can not defend their country from the other countries in the middle east.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

I agree with you andrew because the israel people won several wars to get this land and the palesines cant just take over the land

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I think the Israelites should get Israel because they settled and developed a village there before any one else was there. Also the United Kingdom and the United States gave the Israelites the land. According to the Israelites God promised them Israel.

Side: Support Israelis
18hbolster(2) Disputed
2 points

Yeah but that land wasn't the U.K's or the U.S's land to give them. And after the Israel people left the Palestinians made a home and a village there.

Side: Support Palestinians
3 points

Even though the Israelites left Israel for a little bit doesn't mean that they gave up the land.They were just not in their country at the moment.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I think that the Palestinians just took land from Israel without asking and they deserved to be kicked out of Israel. I think this because when there is nobody around you don't take what is not yours

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

You guys make me laugh. The Jews did NOT choose to leave their land. There was something called The HOLOCAUST people. Hello.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

The land should belong to the Israelis because they have way more experience owning the land and they deserve it way more they have worked so hard so much for this land.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Also, just because the cashier walks away, doesnt mean you take something. Isreal= Cashier. Palistinians = Person who stole.

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

why are israel and palestine still fighting after all these years? why cant they just split the country fifty-fifty and call it done? i think thats how it should go down, instead of them fighting and killing and doing all this crazy stuff

Side: Support Palestinians
18jdouglas(3) Disputed
1 point

the land belongs to the israelis because the lord gave the land to them so it should still stay the israelis land

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Yes, I agree with Emily k. because it makes sense that they just split the land 50-50 instead of Palestine having like nothing and Israel having most of it. Why not just have 50-50?

Side: Support Palestinians
3 points

on the news this morning, i saw that the president was meeting with israel and palestine to make peace between them. maybe this whole thing will come to an end soon!

Side: Support Palestinians
2 points

I think that the Palestinians should be able to have their land back because they took it after all the Jews left. They didn't think that they were going to use it because they completley left. The Palestinians just took advantage of the land since no one was there.

Side: Support Palestinians
18jsmith(12) Disputed
3 points

they did leave but they came back, and Israel has fought in many wars in the way way past to defend there land and they lost many people in those wars so Israel should defently get the land.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

Justin i support your post because of the fact of that Israel did figt lots of wars to get this land they can call their home now.

Side: Support Israelis
18nbroehm(7) Disputed
2 points

That because they were driven out of there land because of the holocaust and they already owned the land rightfully because the United Nations gave them the land before the Holocaust.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

I think the Palestinians should have the land because Islrael left and the Palestians took over when Israel came back. Even before the Israel people left the Palestinians were still there just in kinda like the shadows so i thinks its fair that the Palestinians get the land.

Side: Support Palestinians
18sfriese Disputed
1 point

The palestinians were never in Israel they were in palestine so the palestinians should not just get land for free that isn't theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
Livi(18) Disputed
-1 points

Israel never truly left the land. They still had multikple families living in the Rural Areas. Also, the United Nations, along with the United States legally gave the Israelis official ownership of the land so it is not right for total strangers to take what is theirs.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

Yes, the land originally belonged to Israel. But then every single Jew left. That left the country up and open for grabs. Palestine decided to take it. So they did, and then the Israelis came back and demanded their country back. Palestine rightfully and legally owns that country now

Supporting Evidence: Land and Settlement Issues (www.globalpolicy.org)
Side: Support Palestinians
18dyang(15) Disputed
0 points

They didn't ALL leave. All of the Jew's were all scattered around the country without anyone else knowing. It says that the jews didn't actually leave, they were all scattered around the country n' in Jeruserlem (Fail spelling lol) practically like hiding themselves.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

I support the palestnians side of the argument, because the land was already theirs, and the fact the israelis are killing civillian familys is just un-fair.

Side: Support Palestinians
Livi(18) Disputed
1 point

They are not killing civilian familes. That is a big lie. They were given land that was rightfully theirs by the head of the United Nations and the United States. There was no killing involved. Just a civil meeting. Palestinians still have part ownership for some areas of the land including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

The Palestines never made the Jews leave. It seems that the Isrealis are blaming them leaving on the Palestinians, even though the Palestinians had nothing to do with the Jews leaving their land. It was the Jews choice if they wanted to leave or not. They left so the land was up for grabs. Well who wouldn't take the land? If there is basicly free land to use, wouldn't you use it?

Side: Support Palestinians
18colson(19) Disputed
1 point

It wasnt there choice it was the Holocaust that drove them out! Think about what Brenna said. What she said is exactly like this just on a smaller scale

Side: Support Israelis
Livi(18) Disputed
1 point

The land was not left for grabs. That land was rightfully (and legally) theirs. Nobody should have stolen that land. It's as if, the United States would all of a sudden be taken up by Japanese people. People should have the right of mind to just keep to themselves. Nobody should be stealing land, and besides, the Palestines still live there in areas like the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

The Jews left the land, so it was really open for anybody, if they would have stayed where they were, there really wouldnt have been any conflict in the first place, they came back the and the Palestinians had the land, because they left obviously, and they should have atleast shared the land and not kicked them out.

Side: Support Palestinians
18colson(19) Disputed
1 point

If it wasnt really open for anybody then why would the Palestinians take the land in the first place?

Side: Support Israelis
2 points

I am kind of leaning towards the palestinians side because i dont think that someone who so cruel should have the land. They bomb highly dence populated areas and i dont think they deserve it.

Side: Support Palestinians
18colson(19) Disputed
1 point

They bomb the land because they deserve the land and were there first, all they want is to have the land back if the Palestinians would just leave they wouldn't have to bomb.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

the israelites left and the paletinans move in then israelits move in and were just like this is mine now leave so the took the land by brute force honestly the land belongs to the palistinans

Side: Support Palestinians
1 point

I think the Palestinian people should be able to have the land for many reasons. One, the Jews left and the land was up for grabs so the Palestinians came and took it. Now that the jews came back they are saying the Palistines took the land unrightfully. Well, just because you left, someone took it and now you want it doesn't mean you just get to have it back.

Side: Support Palestinians
3 points

I agree with you, thats not fair at all that they left and came back wanting the land back, even after the Palestinians built a life and homes there so its really unfair that they now want it back.

Side: Support Palestinians
18colson(19) Disputed
3 points

The Jews have been persecuted for years during the Holocaust. God promised them the land and they need a homeland where they won't be persecuted.

Side: Support Israelis
18jsmith(12) Disputed
3 points

They do get the land back because the palestinaian never made a country or wrote any papers to say that it was there land and the israels got the land way before the palestinan people did.

Side: Support Israelis
18dyang(15) Disputed
3 points

But they faught just for the land, and i believe that the jews won that war. So what the jews left, they still have ownership of that land. Plus, they won the war, they should at least get the land that belonged to them in the first place.

Side: Support Israelis
Livi(18) Disputed
2 points

The Jewish people have always lived on the land since the begining of time. The Paliestines and the Jewish people have now split the land so the Palestine's still have the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The Jews never truly left, there were still many living in the rural areas of that country. It is still legally their land as the United Nations, along with the United States have all had a meeting discussing the topic and finding the most fair way to divide the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18nbroehm(7) Disputed
2 points

The Israelites did say they took the land unrightfully because they were driven out of the land because of the hohcaust. Also they were homeless to, and the land was rightfully there's because the United Nations gave them the land, so they Palestinian people should not have just said they took they land rightfully and deserved the land when it wasn't open for grabs. So yes the Palistines did take the land unrightfully.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

the isreal people dropped bombs on heavly populated areas to get the palistinans to leave

Side: Support Palestinians
18jsmith(12) Disputed
3 points

Yes they did and i think that is totally wrong and they should stop the violence then they should get the land.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

That is right it is really violent, and they deserve the land. The bombs are just because before no one would leave the land that bleongs to the Israelis

Side: Support Israelis
3 points

I think that was really wrong because if they wanted the land back they wouldnt be distroying the land, even if it would get them to leave and i'm pretty sure that god wouldn't want them killing people to get land,

Side: Support Palestinians
18mcotter Disputed
3 points

I think they should drop bombs on them because they tried to attack the Israel and they are fighting back

Side: Support Israelis
18jdouglas(3) Disputed
3 points

i think they should drop bombs on them because they tried taking land that the israelis already had and that the Palestinians moved there in 1967 when the israelis already had it in 1948.

Side: Support Israelis
Livi(18) Disputed
3 points

No they didn't. They had an official meeting weith the head of the United Nations and the head of the United States on November 29th, 1947. Israel did not take all the land. They split it between the Palestine's so now the Palestinian's have the West Bank and The Gaza Strip.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

i support the Palestinians because, first of all, if God promised the Jews land, why would they move out of the land? If they left, its really open for anybody, so the Palestinians have the right to have the land. Now the problem is the Jews, they left, the Palestines take it, the Jews come back, and now they want their land back again.

Side: Support Palestinians
2 points

I agree with you Catey. Why would they leave if God promised you the land? It doesn't make sense even if your religon was being judged and destroyed, you shouldn't leave because God gave you the land, you should cherish it and be grateful AND NOT LEAVE THE LAND.

Side: Support Palestinians
18itomasovic(2) Disputed
1 point

Catey, they did not leave the land because they felt like it. They left because of many reasons. 2 million Jews left between 1890-1924. That is because of the Russians and from the Nazi Party. Would you be afraid if I tried to kill you because of your religion? Well that is exactly why the Jews left. The Nazi's killed 6 million Jews. 6 MILLION. Your family would die, you would die. That is why they left. I know I would leave to. It isn't safe. It is like if you had your room and you were happy then your brother came and decided to kill all your stuffed animals and went for you next. He brought the whole family with him. 5 to only you. Would you run? I think yes. But then after they leave, wouldn't you want the land you rightfully owned BACK? I would!

Side: Support Israelis
18nbroehm(7) Disputed
1 point

They left the land because of the HOLOCAUST, they were forced to.

Side: Support Israelis
1 point

They are willing to kill inocent people to get what they used to have back. They should at least give the Palestinians a little bit of land.

Side: Support Palestinians
1 point

The people who are with the Jews dont get that THEY LEFT! it was there choice, they left so people thought they wernt coming back so why wouldnt you take the land if you didnt have room? seriously like for example, say you had the smallest room in your house, and one of your brothers or sisters left to collage or something, wouldnt you take the bigger room knowing they are not coming back? For a while atleast. So yeah, the Palestinians deserve the land or atleast part of it. Plus, why would the Jews bomb the Palestinians to make them go away. Thats just dumb. just saying.

Side: Support Palestinians
0 points

I think that the Jewish people shoule just get out of the palestnians land, because the palestnians were in the land first and the israelis are, not exactly playing fair right now. For one, they are hiring snipers to specifically to kill CHILDREN AND CIVILLIAN FAMILYS!

Side: Support Palestinians
18colson(19) Disputed
2 points

Actually the Israelis people have maintained ties to the land for 3,000 years and actually settled the land and developed the land.

Side: Support Israelis
18itomasovic(2) Disputed
2 points

Palestinians hurt Israelis too. Numerous embassies and Israel travelers have been attacked by Palestinian militant groups. Here are only a FEW:

On December 26, 1968, Two palestine militants attacked an El Al plane about to depart, killing one Israelis and injuring two others.

April 2, 1986, Palestinian militants detonated a bomb on Trans World Airlines, killing 4 people and an infant.

Supporting Evidence: Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Support Israelis
aseidl(2) Disputed
1 point

thats true that they kill innocient people but when you are in a war you have to think of good war tactics and that is one of them. to kill so the enemy dosent train. GET IT RIGHT.

Side: Support Israelis